But it is important that we actually do something about it, and reducing car usage is an important step in that direction.”. Houses of Parliament is 8 miles from the apartment, while The All England Lawn Tennis Club Centre Court is 8 miles away. In a bid to reduce traffic in the area, Croydon Council has announced that three hills in a row will be closed to through traffic from Monday, August 3. “If these latest schemes prove successful, we will consult the public to ask if they should become permanent.”. The most desirable part is known as the Crystal Palace Triangle, bordered by Westow Hill, Westow Street and Church Road. While trying to solve one problem they fear it will gridlock the Crystal Palace Triangle. Therefore – given that local infrastructure investment to support exponential increase of people and cars is highly unlikely and near impossible to achieve the only solution will be to force people to consider whether they really use their cars – I appreciate a lot have very valid reasons for doing so but a lot don’t and are just plain lazy. A remarkable six-bedroom detached home, located on a prime road just off the popular Crystal Palace triangle. Crystal Palace is an area in south London, England, named after the Crystal Palace Exhibition building which stood in the area from 1854 until it was destroyed by fire in 1936. I would urge all to write to Shapps instructing him to withdraw powers and further instructing Croydon Council to open roads pending a full and public consultation on the matter. In West Croydon, car parking spaces have been removed to be replaced with a safer cycle lane, where bike riders are separated from motor vehicles by “wands” – the closest Croydon has ever come to having a “cycle superhighway” of the sort that have been commonplace in other parts of the capital for a decade or more. Crystal Palace Triangle, London, United Kingdom. Learn how to create your own. If enlightened employers give staff some scope for homeworking (my ideal would be 2 days a week at home, 3 in’t office), then maybe enough people would reduce their driving to work through the Triangle and indeed, through anywhere. Cycling is fine –if you have a bike, have somewhere to store it at ground level, (a huge issue for people in even low rise flats) and don’t need to do over a two-panniers’ worth of shopping, don’t have children or a dog needing to be moved safely from A to B, and-in the case of anywhere in Crystal Palace, have the leg muscles, and non-dodgy knees, that are needed for anyone trying to cycle up the massive hills of the Norwood Mountain. Croydon Council says it has informed 1,500 residents, community groups, local representatives and emergency services of the changes and they will also show up on Google Maps. The council failed to consult their colleagues at Bromley Council – which is responsible for traffic management on its borough’s roads nearby. Concerns have been expressed that the popular Crystal Palace Triangle will be “decimated” by increased traffic. There are indeed some people who never walk, and never use public transport, but could do so without endangering themselves. But some in the area are concerned that the closures will simply push traffic to other roads making it more congested elsewhere, including through the already busy Crystal Palace Triangle. The public announcement about the closures was only made late on Thursday, barely 72 hours before the No Entry signs went up. BERMUDA TRIANGLE Getting really really bored of the constant gridlock in Crystal Palace, compliments of Croydon council now known as the Crystal Palace Bermuda Triangle, as its been reported that people who once left for a 20 minute round trip, now disappear for hours and hours on end????? Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Fox Hill. I haven’t been up the Hill to visit the Triangle for a year or so, but I look forward to a train trip there to enjoy Autumn in the “Montparnasse of South London” to see for myself if the recent measures like the planters have any clear plusses or minusses. He said: “I originally got concerned because Croydon Council was supposed to have sent a letter to all the people affected but I did not get one. In Crystal Palace, more than 750 have signed a petition in opposition, while the local Chamber of Commerce has come out fiercely against the closures, predicting gridlock for the area. The three roads – Fox Hill, Stambourne Way and Sylvan Hill – were used as a cut through between Church Road and Auckland Road, but drivers will now need to go through the Crystal Palace triangle or find another route. The maisonette is quietly set away on a no-through path, within walking distance of the shops and bars on the Crystal Palace Triangle. He also has something of a track record for defending the rights of car drivers to pollute the atmosphere and clog the roads with their vehicles: when a Quietway, a reduced traffic route intended to eliminate rat-running, was trialled on Norbury Avenue five years ago, it was Ryan who stepped in and got the experiment pulled long before it had run its course. This map was created by a user. For now the schemes are a trial and will be reviewed in the autumn. Bromley Council leader Colin Smith confirmed on Thursday he had written to the transport secretary in a bid to resolve the situation at the Crystal Palace triangle. Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Stambourne Way, Fox Hill: closure at the junction between Fox Hill and Braybrooke Gardens. Palace Vinyl is a record emporium based in the heart of Crystal Palace Triangle, SE19, which has a 25 year trading history. For more news and features from across London directly to your inbox sign up to our newsletter here . Additional benefit, is having a parking bay on the plot. ‘We’re” doing no such thing, of course. The money for the changes comes from Transport for London and the three Crystal Palace schemes will bring the total in Croydon up to 16. It contains a number of real treasures. Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Stambourne Way. Please shop responsibly. I assume that the traffic engineers looked at all the options, and modelled their ramificatiions, before installing the one way system on the Triangle. Mr Goddard lives with his wife on the corner of Church Road and Fox Hill, and uses his car, which is kept in a garage accessed by Fox Hill to get around. “It will affect us because we won’t be able to get to the doctors on Aukland Road as easily, we used to walk there and back but we couldn’t do it now. That’s why we give food the respect it deserves by simply grill-searing our fish, meat and chicken to lock in the natural flavours that come from sourcing the best local ingredients. Ryan’s intervention this time, though noisy, may not be quite so immediately damaging to the traffic management experiment, something which is being done under covid-19 legislation in a concerted effort to discourage car use for anything but the most essential of journeys. Learn how to create your own. Local access will be maintained via both the Church Road and Auckland Road ends of Sylvan Hill, Stambourne Way: closure at the junction of Stambourne Way and Auckland Road. View of Crystal Palace, London SE19. The three sides of the Crystal Palace triangle may only stretch to half a mile and seven pubs, so it’s one of the least onerous pub crawls in London, but there’s a villagey cosiness up at the top of the hill that makes you want to settle in for the weekend and tie one on. Councillor Stuart King, Croydon Council’s cabinet member for transport and the environment, said that the low-traffic schemes are about “seizing the initiative” to make our residential streets safer and more attractive to walkers, cyclists and residents. At lunchtime, it’s quiet and musty with music played sporadically and at different volumes, as if the few punters in there are being subjected to CIA interrogation techniqu… On the positive side, Croydon Council can cull thousands of pounds in fines for those who, like me, hadn’t actually realised that this stupidity had been implemented with the “enforcement” cameras. Millions of Londoners have been plunged into Tier 4, but what does this mean for shops across the capital? They are an important part of maoden life. The Labour group at the Town Hall, already riven with fault lines on a number of contentious issues, is facing another split, this time over road closures in Upper Norwood that have been introduced today under coronavirus emergency powers. To support independent local journalism in Croydon, please sign up today as a supporter. It’s all about the grain rather than the grape at this grand old hilltop Crystal Palace stalwart, LocAle-accredited and a Camra South London pub of the year in 2011. In a bid to reduce traffic in the area, Croydon Council has announced that three hills in a row will be closed to through traffic from Monday, August 3. The exhibition took place from 1 May to 15 October 1851, and more than 14,000 exhibitors from around the world gathered in its 990,000 square feet (92,000 m 2) exhibition space to display examples of technology developed in the Industrial Revolution. Positioned moments from the vibrant Crystal Palace Triangle, excellent transport links and outstanding schools is this charming three bedroom Victorian maisonette. Some road closures were introduced on side streets around South Norwood – on Lancaster Road, Warminster Road and Woodvale Avenue – at the beginning of the lockdown. The Crystal Palace in Hyde Park for Grand International Exhibition of 1851. The response from those living on those roads have mostly be favourable, those stuck in the slowed traffic on the main roads, as they have taken on the vehicles which would usually use rat runs, have been less complimentary. 564 metre long iron and glass structure that housed the Great Exhibition was moved there in 1854 and reopened as a 'Winter Park and Garden Under Glass' offering education and entertainment That, and electric vehicles, would reduce the pollution and the congestion, and make the streets more pleasant. Crystal Palace is unique in that it falls within five boroughs and the triangle itself straddles three, Croydon, Bromley and Lambeth. “We’ve been up and down to the doctors because my wife damaged her leg.”. Open space Crystal Palace Park is the somewhat neglected listed park that is one of the area’s main amenities. In the case of Ryan, he said that he is “… terribly concerned about the Triangle”, meaning the seemingly permanently car-congested area at the top of Anerley Hill, where cars using the A214 slowly work their way around some fashionable independent shops, bars, pubs and restaurants. Snuggled among Crystal Palace's gorgeous shops you'll find our biggest cafe, offering the usual array of delicious homemade butties, cakes and salads, as well as vegan, gluten and dairy-free goodness. Others are embracing the change as a chance to get out on their bikes more and are pleased with the reduction in traffic. Cycling is fine if the day is not too hot, not too cold, not too wet, and not too windy. It will stop people coming to the Palace to do their shopping, to socialise.”. We also host the Crystal Palace Library of Things and a live-streaming service hosting performances, activities and lunch time shows from our community. At the front of the property is a well-maintained and manageable garden. Most will be reviewed and assessed in the autumn, although quite how that assessment will take place is hard to understand when you consider that the council has gone into these trials with no traffic volume data available for the affected roads from before the pandemic lockdown. The latest chasm between the party line and what people really think was exposed last week by councillor Pat Ryan, who broke the usual omerta required of the Labour group on all matters of public policy when he criticised the road closures saying that the area will be “decimated” (yes, he misused that word), and claiming, “Crystal Palace will lose its identity and character.”. The popular Crystal Palace Food Market is open every Saturday from 10am to 3pm in Haynes Lane, again off the Triangle. The air would be also indeed be fresher, if we reduced car use, but as all vehicles turn electric, many of the objections to cars will go, in terms of local street air pollution from exhaust pipes. Or wrong. The new schemes introduced today under the Streetspace scheme bring the borough’s total so far to 16. All roads meet at the top of the (Anerley) Hill, Apart from rat-run-like cuts, the main alternative to the South is South Norwood and its even more congested High Street which has tiny pavements on both sides. The footways of the Triangle are, generally, much wider. Ryan is a Labour councillor for Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood ward and the longest-serving councillor at the Town Hall. The Crystal Palace Market is an innovative culinary concept that genuinely believes in healthy, fresh and flavoursome food. A problem pushed elsewhere is still a problem. A bus gate at the junction of Auckland Road and Cypress Road allows the number 410 and cyclists continued access while barring cars. “I regret if there is a difference of opinion between myself and the leadership but it is what my residents think and they find it very hard to understand that they are not being listened to. He said: “I am concerned about all the residents and I am terribly concerned about the Triangle. The council was still making amendments to its road closure plans as late as July 30, when a letter was rushed out to residents advising of adjustments to where and how some of the roads affected would be blocked off. The current Triangle one-way system has the effect of taking drivers coming from the South West (Croydon and South Norwood and beyond) , down the wide, Southern section of Church Road, past the Queens Hotel, and, after a left turn, rather slowly around the 2 sides of the triangle that are lined with shops and restaurants–Westow Street and Westow Hill . To contact us, please email inside.croydon@btinternet.com. A few other similar schemes have already been put in place by the council including closures on Lancaster Road, Warminster Road and Woodvale Avenue. However, road congestion, caused by people driving through the pinch point of the Triangle, will remain as there are no adeqaute alternative North-South and East-West Routes. THERE'S NO TIME (by The Planters) I’ve… Most of it is in the Upper Norwood Triangle … In her letter, Cllr Wilkins tells Ms Alexander there has been “large increases in congestion around the Crystal Palace triangle and feeder roads” since the August 3 implementation of the closures. According to Councillor Ryan, “It is fighting for survival because of covid-19. 87 likes. Cllr King added: “We have come up with these temporary measures because they make more of our roads attractive spaces for people to walk and cycle in, give everyone a safer and healthier local environment and they continue to allow traffic to get from A to B. We're also loving seeing new businesses arriving in the Triangle too. This really is a masterclass in both arrogance and stupidity (buy one get one free?). At a Croydon Council meeting on Monday (October 11) Councillor Stephen Mann raised the plight of some Crystal Palace businesses. “I support the objectives behind this, but can’t see how this won’t badly affect some Bromley residents, drivers or not!” was the comment tweeted by Angela Wilkins, the leader of the opposition Labour group on Bromley Council, in reaction to Croydon’s proposals. The area is definitely on the up, the triangle itself in particular as it has such a large catchment area. “Further, it is considered that the direct investment that will arise from M&S Foodhall’s presence in the Crystal Palace triangle should be wholly supported – especially as the current high-street retail industry is typically facing uncertainty. A green space in the Crystal Palace Triangle, the part of south London area where three boroughs meet (Croydon, Lambeth and Bromley). 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